17x9 Inch SSR Integral weight = 17 lbs (reported as 18.8 on this site http://home.earthlink.net/~cvlocas/wheels.html) Price $400 from Japan, you can get 17x8 from Tirerack.com, but not 17x9 (+38 offset rubbed on Pat's car with stock springs, but not with Ryane's Coilovers)